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#1 Post by Boac » Sun May 19, 2024 4:22 pm

It is reported that a helo carrying the Iranian president and some senior bods had a 'hard landing', possibly in a mountainous area in 'fog'.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -camp-gaza

Oh dear.

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#2 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun May 19, 2024 10:12 pm

The rain and fog at the crash site is now turning to snow. The aircraft is now reported as not yet found, despite earlier reports that it had been.
I do not fancy the chances of anyone surviving unless they were uninjured and could use the wreckage for shelter.
At least 3 ministers and the Head of the Revolutionary Guard are reportedly on site.
I doubt we will hear promptly if the Pres is now selecting his 72 virgin goats, but the lack of news itself will be enough to confirm his demise.

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#3 Post by G-CPTN » Mon May 20, 2024 3:08 am

Burned-out wreckage located, no signs of life.

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#4 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 20, 2024 4:46 am

Foreign Minister also likely toast.
Despite a Fatwa being issued by the Supreme Leader, Invalid Votes came second in the last Presidential Election. All of the mainstream and popular candidates were excluded from running.
So, doubtless Khamenei (previously the 3rd President) will have to shoo-in another hardliner as his putative successor.
He's 85, so whoever it is will likely be running the place shortly.
The Vice-Prez, now presumably Acting Prez, is Mukhbar, who did the deal to ship Shahed drones to putin, but is not a cleric so not in the running long term.
The Iranians tend to pick cleverer sidekicks to keep the old clerics in charge up to speed so they don't show themselves up for the idiots they are.
The next Prez is unlikely to be anything other than a very hardliner, like Raisi 'The butcher of Tehran', so named after overseeing all the 1988 executions.
As with Foreign Minister, I doubt the level of expertise will be going anywhere but down. Expect more radical and stupid decisions as the Gaza situation, and others, continue.

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#5 Post by OFSO » Mon May 20, 2024 4:55 am

Reported dead along with other ministers, top officials, etc.

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#6 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon May 20, 2024 6:07 am

Fox3 wrote a superb comment in post#4 very well thought. I am wondering if this wasn't an accident then whoever ordered it maybe didn't act wisely since it opens the road to more hardliners.

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#7 Post by probes » Mon May 20, 2024 6:41 am

Interesting, isn't it.
Him, and at this 'volatile' time. Globally.

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It's said to be surprising how many widely varied versions were produced by Iran themselves, from the MI-117 (ruz produced? or was it the Bell-212?) having been shot down to a heavy landing and Raisi travelling on by car. Then, a massive rescue operation 'reported' despite the weather conditions and landscape being really difficult.
Somewhat difficult period for the nation also expected, but no major changes. Maybe less influence in the region for some time.

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#9 Post by tango15 » Mon May 20, 2024 9:24 am

It seems that a week before he was shot on 15 May, Slovakia Prime Minister Robert Fico visited Azerbaijan and met with Azeri President Ilham Aliyev in Baku on 7 May. Also, the Crocus venue in Moscow is part-Azerbaijani owned.

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#10 Post by probes » Mon May 20, 2024 9:57 am

Hm. #-o

Israel: it wasn't us! Israel denies involvement in Iran president's helicopter crash

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Helicopter carrying Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi leaves site as one of the helicopters in his convoy crashed after the inauguration of a dam on the border along with Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev in Jabrayil district of Azerbaijan on May 19, 2024. [Islamic Republic News (IRNA) – Anadolu Agency]

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#11 Post by Boac » Mon May 20, 2024 10:32 am

Oh good! Another conspiracy theory. Israel responsible for low cloud on the hills?

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#12 Post by limeygal » Mon May 20, 2024 1:30 pm

Reported dead along with other ministers, top officials, etc.
Well, it's a start! :YMPARTY: (too soon?)

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#13 Post by Dushan » Mon May 20, 2024 1:49 pm

Question for Mosad: how do you start a fog on a hill?
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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#14 Post by Dushan » Mon May 20, 2024 1:54 pm

probes wrote:
Mon May 20, 2024 9:57 am
Hm. #-o

Israel: it wasn't us! Israel denies involvement in Iran president's helicopter crash
Nothing is confirmed until it is officially denied.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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#15 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 20, 2024 2:24 pm

The Mossad
Motto: "It's never an accident"

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#16 Post by Boac » Mon May 20, 2024 3:07 pm

Which means October 7th was down to Mossad?

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#17 Post by llondel » Mon May 20, 2024 3:15 pm

Dushan wrote:
Mon May 20, 2024 1:49 pm
Question for Mosad: how do you start a fog on a hill?
I saw a report that said the pilot was a Mossad agent named Eli Copter.

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#18 Post by PHXPhlyer » Mon May 20, 2024 4:32 pm

Any more definitive report on aircraft type, MI-117 or Bell-212? :-?

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#19 Post by Boac » Mon May 20, 2024 4:39 pm

Bell 212, I believe.

llondel - a good Iranian name, there.............. :))

Co-pilot was 'Foggy' Hills

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