Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

A place to discuss politics and things related to Govts
Message
Author
User avatar
boing
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 2716
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:32 am
Location: Beautful Oregon USA
Gender:
Age: 77

Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#1 Post by boing » Thu May 07, 2020 2:25 pm

Ok, it's a tough time in general so judgements are becoming clouded but I am getting really disgusted with the level of childish comment and puerile exchanges to which these threads are sinking.

Fair game to take digs at other countries in a light hearted manner but serious attacks based on ignorance, a total refusal to allow for the inevitable national differences and pure dogmatic dislike are going too far.

And the level of personal attacks are clearly also going too far to the great loss of the community. I was going to say "our" community but the way relationships are deteriorating the word "our" is ceasing to be appropriate.

In other words, and the people involved know who they are except for perhaps one person, get your bloody act together, recognise the level you have sunk to and hit the reset button.


.
the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.

G-CPTN
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 7703
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:22 pm
Location: Tynedale
Gender:
Age: 79

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#2 Post by G-CPTN » Thu May 07, 2020 2:50 pm

boing wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:25 pm

And the level of personal attacks are clearly also going too far to the great loss of the community. I was going to say "our" community but the way relationships are deteriorating the word "our" is ceasing to be appropriate.

In other words, and the people involved know who they are except for perhaps one person, get your bloody act together, recognise the level you have sunk to and hit the reset button.
+1

User avatar
ian16th
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 10029
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:35 am
Location: KZN South Coast with the bananas
Gender:
Age: 87

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#3 Post by ian16th » Thu May 07, 2020 3:15 pm

G-CPTN wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:50 pm
boing wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:25 pm

And the level of personal attacks are clearly also going too far to the great loss of the community. I was going to say "our" community but the way relationships are deteriorating the word "our" is ceasing to be appropriate.

In other words, and the people involved know who they are except for perhaps one person, get your bloody act together, recognise the level you have sunk to and hit the reset button.
+1
+1
Cynicism improves with age

Seenenough

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#4 Post by Seenenough » Thu May 07, 2020 3:32 pm

Boing,meaningful debate departed this blog long ago.

Remember also this blog is made up of several people booted out of Pprune.There was a reason they were booted from Pprune.

The "community"on this blog ,about 270 people, is not growing and several major threads are dominated by a handful of people doing little else than pushing their dislike of how the US functions.We can be talking about the UK but sooner or later it gets turned back to become a US debate.

The intertwined thread drifting that regularly occurs is quite astounding.

Some of us like Ben There,Brickhistory and myself try to give another view of the US and the World that the press and its agenda keep intentionally misreporting yet each time we try and "debate" and offer alternative views, several posters retort by declaring us to be stupid, uneducated,brainwashed,etc because they are unable to debate using facts ,let alone accept that there are people who hold views that are not the same as theirs.

It amazes me that one person has made over 3000 posts in a nine month period.I would bet his posts over such a short period make up at least a quarter to a third of all posts made on the blog over the same period.Alison would have the data,maybe she can share it with us.

We get that there are a lot of people who dislike Donald Trump and the US but saying it over and over again, wherever and whenever possible, does nothing other than to cause damage to the whole blog.Almost all of the really active threads get turned by a few posters into Trump and US bashing sessions.

I believe that this blog will stop growing and begin to wither if several posters keep shouting everyone out and childishly belittling anyone who tries to express a different viewpoint which is not the same as theirs.

User avatar
Ex-Ascot
Test Pilot
Test Pilot
Posts: 13257
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:16 am
Location: Botswana but sometimes Greece
Gender:
Age: 68

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#5 Post by Ex-Ascot » Thu May 07, 2020 3:44 pm

Thank you boing. With the very light, and appreciated, moderation it is expected for us to behave like Ladies and Gentlemen. My comments about troublesome frogs and black bastards who beat us up would have seen me banned from most forums but I think justified comments. One may question views of fellow members but not hurl abuse. On the very few occasions I venture onto TOP it is obvious that we are lucky, thanks to our founder, that we have a fairly elite and courteous group here of varied backgrounds and professions. Let us keep it that way please.

Sorry but I initially miss-read the thread title. I was about to deny the number of children that I have shot this week. it is however much more peaceful. Six of the little bastards* running around our boat and jetty yesterday evening.

* This is an accurate use of the word not derogatory, honest.
Seenenough
Why do you refer to this forum as a BLOG?! It is a FORUM. A BLOG is something completely different and probably an Americanism.
'Yes, Madam, I am drunk, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly.' Sir Winston Churchill.

Capetonian

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#6 Post by Capetonian » Thu May 07, 2020 4:00 pm

It's probably a good thing that I am not interested or knowledgeable enough in US affairs to venture onto that thread more than once in a blue moon, and I think I've made one posting on it. For the record, I am not-anti USA although there is a lot I don't agree with.
one person has made over 3000 posts in a nine month period
I hope that's not me!

Unless I'm oblivious to it, have not seen much of the personal attacks that boing refers too, just one, in my view totally uncalled for, in the last week, as a result of which we may have lost a poster who seems to have been well respected and liked - certainly by me.

User avatar
om15
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 7756
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:51 pm
Location: Dorset
Age: 71

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#7 Post by om15 » Thu May 07, 2020 4:03 pm

Yes I agree with this point. It is ruining a pleasant forum, but that's socialists for you.

User avatar
Wodrick
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 8423
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:23 am
Location: Torrox Campo, Andalucia.
Gender:
Age: 74

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#8 Post by Wodrick » Thu May 07, 2020 4:07 pm

as a result of which we may have lost a poster who seems to have been well respected and liked - certainly by me.
And me, whether from Spain, which won't be for a while it seems, or Londinium.
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ITORRO10?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash

User avatar
boing
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 2716
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:32 am
Location: Beautful Oregon USA
Gender:
Age: 77

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#9 Post by boing » Thu May 07, 2020 4:08 pm

We are at the age when we can be eccentric, we can be expected to carry the scars of existence real or mental, we can expect to have created "attitudes", we will have opinions about other individuals both as people and by nationality. All this is a result of living and many of our lives have been formed by dramatic events, the Cold War, rationing, memories of WW2, our schools, our communities, the lessons of our military service. But, we were taught above all that control of our emotions and our words was the most important thing we could learn, let's continue to remember this.


.
the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.

User avatar
OFSO
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 18868
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:39 pm
Location: Teddington UK and Roses Catalunia
Gender:
Age: 80

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#10 Post by OFSO » Thu May 07, 2020 4:40 pm

Instead of replying to my tormentor, I have been off procuring 165kg of the best Thames clay to make a life-size model of the person concerned. When finished, pins will be inserted into the model in the general area of the few remaining functioning lobes of the liver. Un bel domani, fratello!

User avatar
brickhistory
Snr FO
Snr FO
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:00 pm
Location: GTT - Gone to Texas
Gender:

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#11 Post by brickhistory » Thu May 07, 2020 4:41 pm

boing wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:25 pm
Ok, it's a tough time in general so judgements are becoming clouded but I am getting really disgusted with the level of childish comment and puerile exchanges to which these threads are sinking.

Fair game to take digs at other countries in a light hearted manner but serious attacks based on ignorance, a total refusal to allow for the inevitable national differences and pure dogmatic dislike are going too far.

And the level of personal attacks are clearly also going too far to the great loss of the community. I was going to say "our" community but the way relationships are deteriorating the word "our" is ceasing to be appropriate.

In other words, and the people involved know who they are except for perhaps one person, get your bloody act together, recognise the level you have sunk to and hit the reset button.


.
+1
What's his plan? A Russian doesn't take a dump without a plan.

User avatar
barkingmad
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5497
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:13 pm
Location: Another Planet
Gender:
Age: 75

Re: Dedicated Shooting Range?

#12 Post by barkingmad » Thu May 07, 2020 5:04 pm

May I refer the honourable gentlemen to the reply I gave some time ago, across in “US Hamster Wheel” post # 6844.
Let the gunslingers start the already-named thread so that when the discussion here in the saloon bar gets heated, they may adjourn to the OK Corral and fire their insults and barbs and any other rotten fruit available at each other.
Meantime, back in the saloon, once the swing halfdoors have closed we can all return to the topic, hopefully with either articulate and informative contributions (preferably proof read before submission), punctuated by the occasional flash of wit? ~X(

BenThere
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 3804
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:54 am
Location: Michigan/Quintana Roo
Gender:
Age: 72

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#13 Post by BenThere » Thu May 07, 2020 6:03 pm

I hope I haven't come across as one of the offenders. I do endeavor to maintain a decorum, trying to recognize that discussion of issues isn't personal, and is really an expression of views. Acception or rejection of those views can be expressed within the bounds of civility, which I endorse.

But the counterarguments should be expressed on the core disagreements rather than attempts to infantilize, denigrate, and insult, as sometimes happens. If you don't like President Trump, you don't need to characterize him as 'Chump' or 'Orange Man'. That is infantile IMHO.. Just say what you disagree with. Then we have more to talk about.

Pontius Navigator
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 14669
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:17 am
Location: Gravity be the clue
Gender:
Age: 81

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#14 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu May 07, 2020 6:46 pm

OFSO wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 4:40 pm
Instead of replying to my tormentor, I have been off procuring 165kg of the best Thames clay to make a life-size model of the person concerned. When finished, pins will be inserted into the model in the general area of the few remaining functioning lobes of the liver. Un bel domani, fratello!
I may disagree with what you say but will fight tooth and nail to defend your right . . .

😀

Actually what I missed was the little gems of information from your part of the world, and everyone else's which, unlike MSM, is honest reporting, free of bias (well there are exceptions) and a far wider geographical spread. I miss our Thai correspondent.

As an aside, if you permit me, I was doing an OU course with the course notes mentioning Tijuana, Atlanta, and Antarctica. Using my forum at the time i was able to contact case friend in each place to get corobatory or contradictory information. I am pleased to say I got better information that my professor.

Pontius Navigator
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 14669
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:17 am
Location: Gravity be the clue
Gender:
Age: 81

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#15 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu May 07, 2020 6:51 pm

Ben, you mention POTUS, I must admit I disagree with most comments about our politicians that arise here too. As you say, disagree with their politics or their actions but not with the man.

bob2s
Capt
Capt
Posts: 1576
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:42 pm
Location: NSW Australia
Age: 79

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#16 Post by bob2s » Thu May 07, 2020 10:38 pm

Boing,I totally agree with you regarding the way some threads are hijacked by those that tend to play the man,rather than play the ball.It has got to a stage where I skim through most of the threads dominated by the 3000 poster,it is a shame that what was a most enjoyable repartee has deteriorated into a slanging match on certain subjects. --- Don't let it become another TOP. ---

User avatar
CharlieOneSix
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5061
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:58 pm
Location: NE Scotland
Gender:
Age: 79

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#17 Post by CharlieOneSix » Thu May 07, 2020 11:05 pm

bob2s wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:38 pm
Boing,I totally agree with you regarding the way some threads are hijacked by those that tend to play the man,rather than play the ball.It has got to a stage where I skim through most of the threads dominated by the 3000 poster,it is a shame that what was a most enjoyable repartee has deteriorated into a slanging match on certain subjects. --- Don't let it become another TOP. ---
+1 ....there are now many threads that I don't look at and others where I just skim past the obviously irrelevant posts. A pity the forum has deteriorated so much since the early days.
The helicopter pilots' mantra: If it hasn't gone wrong then it's just about to...
https://www.glenbervie-weather.org

prospector
Capt
Capt
Posts: 1151
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:37 am
Location: New Zealand
Gender:
Age: 84

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#18 Post by prospector » Fri May 08, 2020 1:36 am

+1, many thanks to Boing for writing such a lucid post on what was rapidly becoming a downhill slide on some forums.

User avatar
om15
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 7756
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:51 pm
Location: Dorset
Age: 71

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#19 Post by om15 » Fri May 08, 2020 9:43 am

A pity the forum has deteriorated so much since the early days.
Yes that is right, when we started it was a very lively and witty forum, the WOE thread and the aircraft recognition thread together with TRAB was good fun, we had Fox, Slash, Sise with amusing contributions, (Lily even), but now politics seems to have taken over, the sparkle has gone, I simply just don't read most of what's on here, I enjoy reading about Ex A's adventures and the pithy comments from OFSO, the updates from Iberia and canal restorers, but that is about it, the banal insults and constant popular music videos have ruined it for me.

Capetonian

Re: Is anybody else getting fed-up with the childish sniping going on?

#20 Post by Capetonian » Fri May 08, 2020 9:50 am

Much as I like some types of music, and one should not criticise others' taste, I am against the constant posting of music videos on threads to which they are rarely relevant. Posting the URL or name of song/artist would suffice.

I would therefore propose that apart from the couple of music threads, there should be a ban on video posting on other threads.

Post Reply