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Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:48 pm
by OFSO
A conviction is not required, nor a prosecution. An admission of drug use is sufficient grounds for barring entry.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:56 pm
by Boac
Since probably 90% of those seeking entry to the US will probably have 'used drugs' at some point the key must, therefore, be in declaring that. Simples.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:42 pm
by G-CPTN
"Don't ask - don't tell"

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:46 am
by Ex-Ascot
Tomorrow he is going to be completely mauled by his father's council. Can't wait for the transcript.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:32 pm
by Pontius Navigator
Ex-Ascot wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:46 am
Tomorrow he is going to be completely mauled by his father's council. Can't wait for the transcript.
I think the judge might have the first word.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:45 pm
by OFSO
Nobbled?

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:17 pm
by OFSO
Judge has expressed his 'surprise' at Harry not turning up at Court today. First black mark.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:35 pm
by 4mastacker
Shame the judge didn't dismiss Harry's case for wasting the court's time and award costs against him.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:04 pm
by llondel
Boac wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:48 pm
I think a conviction is required? As far as I know, Harry has only been sentenced by Meghan.... =))
"By", or "to"?

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:49 pm
by G-CPTN
OFSO wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:17 pm
Judge has expressed his 'surprise' at Harry not turning up at Court today.
I believe it might have been another child's birthday . . .
"he was celebrating daughter Lilibet's birthday"
He is truly taking the p1ss Shirley.

"First black mark." - are we allowed to suggest that?

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:59 pm
by OFSO
OK, "first non-white mark" then.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:39 am
by Ex-Ascot
This case is turning out as a corker. The defence really buttered him at first now it is getting more difficult. They are asking him long questions (too much for him) then he comes out with a one liner 'it is my belief' not fact. His barrister must be down the pub getting dead drunk by now. There are long pauses before answers whilst he shuffles through piles of paper. The defence lawyer has offered him help to hand him the correct papers. He says that the press were spying on him so that they knew that he was in a celebratory chef's kitchen in London when they photographed him. He says that he has never worked in a kitchen but there are the photographs. :YMPARTY:

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:51 pm
by barkingmad
Not going well for the boy so far, having entered the lions' den of the Court system and very sharp KCs.

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry ... t-12881275

A summary of today, for those who find it difficult to access the latest hot poop from the UK;

Court breaks for lunch: Here's what we learned this morning
The court has adjourned for lunch - but here is a recap of key moments from this morning's testimony by Prince Harry:
The prince appeared calm and relaxed in court, at one point joking with MGN's lawyer;
Harry said the stories had an effect on his mother, Princess Diana, and "her reaction to me as her son";
He said he "assumed" as a child that friends went to the papers with stories about him;
MGN's lawyer argued Prince Harry's phone could not have been hacked when one of the articles was published - because he did not have a mobile phone at the time;
He told the court reports of a pub lunch with friends "caused him distress" because he was hoping to have a private birthday lunch "and somehow a photographer found me";
There was a moment where it got slightly heated, as MGN's lawyer pressed Prince Harry on which phone would have been intercepted;
A witness statement was released (see black posts) in which we learned the Queen sent an aide to stay near Harry in Australia because she was worried, and that Harry "feels physically sick" when he thinks about behaviour allegedly overseen by former Mirror editor Piers Morgan.

I'm not going to bother with stocking up on popcorn nor will I lay in the cases of Corona (1) Beer as I've more interesting and urgent matters for attention...

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:35 pm
by 4mastacker
Reading various reports of today's proceedings, it would appear that the ginger one is on the receiving end of an @r$e/plate interface situation.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:09 pm
by Boac
Are we to expect the same reporting of all the other plaintiffs?

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:19 pm
by OFSO
Depending on the judge, he might apply the verdict to (all) other cases. Odd, but there we are.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:55 pm
by G-CPTN
Ginge obviously failed to read the standing orders:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_com ... er_explain

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:55 am
by PHXPhlyer
Judge gives US government one week to handle request for Prince Harry’s visa records

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/politics ... index.html

A federal judge has given the Department of Homeland Security until next Tuesday to decide how it will handle a conservative think tank’s request for Prince Harry’s US immigration records.

The Heritage Foundation has asked the US government via the Freedom of Information Act to see his visa application, citing his admission of past recreational drug use in his memoir. The group is questioning whether immigration officials properly granted Prince Harry’s application, since admission of past drug use can be grounds to reject a visa application.

Prince Harry gives evidence in London phone hacking case
At a hearing Tuesday in Washington, DC, federal judge Carl Nichols gave DHS until June 13 to determine whether or not it will expedite or respond to a request for the records.

Several agencies within the department, including US Border Patrol, have denied the FOIA requests, but the agency’s headquarters has not yet made a determination.

In court filings, DHS has noted that the US Customs and Border Protection agency originally denied the requests from Heritage because the group did not have Prince Harry’s authorization or consent to release the information.

“A person’s visa … is confidential,” DHS attorney John Bardo said in court Tuesday.

DHS attorneys have also said that an injunction to expedite the FOIA requests is not appropriate in the case since Heritage has, among other things, not shown how they will suffer irreparable harm if the information is not quickly released.

Attorneys for the Heritage Foundation see the case as part of a larger effort to uncover non-compliance with the law by DHS in different areas – including accusations from Republican lawmakers that DHS is “deliberately refusing to enforce the Country’s immigration laws and is responsible for the current crisis at the border,” court filings read.

When asked about the privacy aspect of their records request, attorney Samuel Dewey, who represents Heritage, said Prince Harry’s privacy on the issue of past drug use has been “extraordinarily diminished” given his public remarks on the subject.

“We’re only focused on the specific issue that’s drawn all the press attention: the drug use,” Dewey said. “He’s talked about, he’s written about it extensively. He has waved any privacy interest he has in his drug use. He has bragged about it (in his memoir) and sold that.”

To CNN, Dewey added: “This is a case that concerns Prince Harry, but what it’s focused on is DHS’s conduct.”

Separately on Tuesday, Prince Harry testified in a case in London against the publisher of a UK tabloid, alleging the media organization used illegal methods in their reporting, namely by hacking his phone.

It was the first time in over a century that a member of the British royal family has testified in court.

PP

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:11 am
by OFSO
He's been officially designated a "Numpty". Lovely word.

Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:33 pm
by FD2
Tilting at windmills...

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