Who is going to be the next PM?

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

It's a tricky one isn't it? She doesn't say Theresa doesn't have a stake, but I agree that she is pushing the mum angle and being crassly insensitive about it. At the end of the day, they are both politicians, and either is the "least worst" option in that respect.

I've spent a long time doing cover for parents, working as a single man in boarding schools, looking after kids because fellow teachers who were parents were looking after their own kids. In fact, the school couldn't have provided the service it did if the sexes had been balanced (42 full time male staff, 4 female; part-timers were 2 male/14 female). HOWEVER, my first school was very good about the inequalities of this, and the singlies got the plum overseas trips and weren't expected to do anything at all in the hols. Worked out fair in the long run, I thought.

As a general concern, I've tended to notice that, whilst parents are concerned about the medium term, they can be remarkably poor at taking the long view and considering all sectors of society. It's rare to find a parent, especially a mother, who will agree to anything that disadvantages her child, no matter how great the benefit for everyone else. Just my observations.

[om15]

Leadsom is taking some stick this morning

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[Ibbie]

None of the above are fit to be PM or are they the people's choice.

Both the Tory Party and the Labour Party should elect their new/returned leader and then there should be a general election. Only then does whoever becomes PM have a mandate to deal with the EU problem, one way or another.

No leader should be implementing A50 until they have a mandate from a General Election and have negotiated a way forward, which may be basically status quo membership with just a few amendments as the only workable and achievable path.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Several European Leaders have already stated that they won't negotiate until A50 is implemented.

A GE is not only unnecessary, but not relevent. That was the entire point of the Referendum. Since every main party supported Remain, a GE gives no mandate to change the result of the referendum at all, morally or logically. The people have told the politicians they are wrong on this one. Any attempt by Westminster not to Leave destroys the very basis of representative democracy.

When the British people speak everyone, including members of Parliament, should tremble before their decision and that's certainly the spirit with which I accept the result of the referendum.

Tony Benn, 1975, after the Referendum to stay in the Common Market

and remember that the Referendum Act 2015, with a simple majority required (just like 1975), passed it's second reading with MPs voting 544 to 53 in favour (SNP opposed en masse).

[Tall Bird]

According to the Westminster Hour on Radio 4, Mrs Leadsom has apologised to Mrs May suggesting she was naïve not cruel when commenting on the latter's childlessness. That's all right then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... m-apologi/

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

It also, sadly, legitimises the process of comments taken out of context and blown up by the media with an agenda. Leadsom's naïvity is in defending herself; she needs to attack like Trump does. There'll be two or three of these a week now, which will conveniently leave no time at all for investigating May's abysmal record at the Home Office, or ineffectual support for Remain.May's campaign's identical to Remain's campaign - 'We've nothing good to say so let's just slag off the opposition'. I hope the result is the same also.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

This is unconfirmed at the moment but sources say Andrea Leadsom is pulling out. She had been genuinely shattered by the motherhood row over the weekend. A statement is coming at noon…

http://order-order.com/2016/07/11/andrea-leadsom-pulls/

[msdad2]

So May it is.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

The 1922 Committee will probably want to put up another candidate for the vote. Gove will probably stand if that's the case, but I don't fancy his chances now.

May is a total f#ckwit, but sadly she has little effective competition - the UK is going to disappear rapidly down the drain now.

[Boac]

Well, whoever is on Leadsom's advisory team needs shooting. Send them to the US.........

[ian16th]

The World of 2017

USA - President Hillary Clinton
UK - PM Theresa May
Germany - Chancellor Angela Merkel
France - President Marie le Pen

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Gove won't stand - May is a done deal.
http://order-order.com/2016/07/11/brady ... oronation/

The happiest people in the UK right now are Bulgarian human smuggling gang leaders

[om15]

As they have spent the last month or so completely discrediting each other it will be a challenge for Mrs May to actually put a cabinet together.
At least we will hopefully see the smarmy sly Osborne get the heave ho, mind you, it was his project fear ballocks that was so effective in persuading people to vote leave, credit where it's due

[Boac]

Well, I for one think things are now at the point where a General Election is necessary. This is ridculous. I suspect the two main parties would not fare well.

[Ibbie]

Quite agree Boac.

Lets get on with a General Election.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

..problem is, Farage has retired and UKIP are as divided as the rest of them. I doubt Joe Public is prepared to vote Monster Raving Loony en masse, or vote for an Independent, but those would seem to be the only two options that may improve things.
The Cons might call one if they think Labour will lose more than they will.

[Boac]

Farage has retired

You cannot be serious.......... Seriously, though, I think he would be a channel-going disaster.

I could foresee the 'best-hung' parliament of all time. Time for PR?

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Time for anyone who knows how to run a country, as opposed to the incompetent political animals filling Westminster right now. Any one of my former Bosses or Station Commanders could do a better job than the lot of them. In fact I think I could go down to Deputy Flight Commander level - even Bertie the Bastard would be preferable to the current circus menagerie.

[Boac]

100%.

I think I'd vote for Gisela in a 'devolved' labour party.

[Ibbie]

Every "unelected" PM I can remember, has been an unmitigated disaster.