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#6621 Post by Woody »

There’s some truth in his memoirs as Boris admits to being hopeless :D
Boris Johnson was part of a last-minute attempt to discourage the Duke of Sussex from leaving his royal life in the UK, according to the former prime minister's soon-to-be-published memoir.
Johnson delivered what he calls a "manly pep talk" to Prince Harry on the sidelines of a UK-Africa investment summit in London in January 2020, according to Unleashed, the memoir being serialised in the Daily Mail.
It was a "totally hopeless" task, suggests Johnson, with Prince Harry already on the verge of leaving the country.
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As someone once said, (maybe it was on this forum?): Anyone who wants to be a politician should not be allowed to.
It was Douglas Adams.
It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
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Starmer's clothing allowance, he admits, has actually doubled to over 30,000 pounds. If this hadn't been exposed I wonder how long the top three would have carried on taking freebies from Lord Alli. It seems like the sleeze which they rightly gave the Tories a hard time for does not apply to them. All these 'benefits' while taking away the WFA from pensioners.

To the tune of The Red Flag:

The working class can kiss my ****,
I've got the foreman's job at last.

Any 'whataboutery' to counter the new sleeze in town?
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I retract my previous statement, he’s completely insane :-o

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Saw that - what a complete load of b*****ks he's come up with - but there are some who will believe it. Would anyone in their right mind ask the defence chiefs to even contemplate a raid like that in the Netherlands? Either he's nuts or he's talking out of his fundament yet again.

To think there were quite a few MPs and others who thought that a re-booted Johnson could lead them and win the last election, despite of the obvious thrashing they were going to receive! It just adds to my thoughts about the competence of the present shower of politicians.


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One of these is going to be the next Leader of the Opposition in the UK :((

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God - I never thought I'd agree with anything that came out of Bunter's mouth! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... fraud.html

I think there will be a Chinese base in the Chagos archipelago soon, courtesy of their puppet state Mauritius.

The Argentine foreign minister is already talking about the same solution for the Falklands - to become the Malvinas again after their last reincarnation in 1982. Next will be Spain whining about Gibraltar despite having two 'enclaves' in Africa.

'Two Tier' Starmer doesn't seem to be able to put a foot right. The dotard in Washington is said to agree with Starmer!
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#6629 Post by OFSO »

Anyone watch the interview with that lying toad Boris last night ?
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You can tell when he's lying - his lips move...
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God - I never thought I'd agree with anything that came out of Bunter's mouth! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... fraud.html

I think there will be a Chinese base in the Chagos archipelago soon, courtesy of their puppet state Mauritius.

The Argentine foreign minister is already talking about the same solution for the Falklands - to become the Malvinas again after their last reincarnation in 1982. Next will be Spain whining about Gibraltar despite having two 'enclaves' in Africa.

'Two Tier' Starmer doesn't seem to be able to put a foot right. The dotard in Washington is said to agree with Starmer!
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From Rishi Sunak in 2022, lots of faux outrage from Cleverly etc as the negotiation process began when he was Foreign Secretary :o)
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So Starmer has concluded the deal and it was just as Sunak was negotiating it in 2022?

How much will the UK have to pay to lease it back and are there any guarantees that the Chinese won't be able to build any bases there?
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In a rush last night I should have said, in light of revelations about the Tories also having been in 'talks' with Mauritius that no UK government should have given way to one of the many and growing list of Chinese puppet states around the world which have received loadsa Yuan and are now beholden to Xi. I don't know what the end result if any of the Sunak negotiations would have been but I know that Two Tier and his challenged Foreign Secretary's signatures will be on that document!
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As your cartoon shows, correctly, the infamous 'lettuce' was the originator of the recent 'negotiations' on the sovereignty of the Chagos Islands. The UK has long been long held to be 'at fault' over this issue by the ICJ, and conservative supporters should note we have striven to uphold the power and reach of international law - that would be the ICJ - (where convenient, of course).

A little more history, including Mr James 'Not-so-cleverly's' involvement in the issue and his ministerial statetement of intent which he has, of course now furiously decried in his leadership attempts. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... os-islands
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Starmer refuses to rule out signing away Gibraltar and the Falklands

PM gives evasive answer on overseas territories after Chagos Islands deal

Sir Keir Starmer has refused to rule out ending British control of Gibraltar and the Falklands, amid an ongoing backlash over his Chagos Islands deal.

Asked on Friday to guarantee that no other British overseas territory would be signed away by the Government, the Prime Minister avoided the question, telling reporters that securing the use of the military base on Diego Garcia, a part of the Chagos Islands, was his focus.

He said: “The single-most important thing was ensuring that we had a secure base, the joint US-UK base; hugely important to the US, hugely important to us.”

The Prime Minister’s evasive answer raised fears about not only Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands, which are wanted by Spain and Argentina, respectively, but a series of other dependencies.

He announced on Thursday his decision to authorise the handover of the strategically important Chagos Islands to Mauritius.

The Telegraph can reveal that the controversial agreement will cost the taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds and will see the UK paying Mauritius until as late as 2164 – much longer than the 99 years that have been made public.

The Chagos Islands have been British since 1814, but their sovereignty will be handed to Mauritius in the deal that the Government claimed would safeguard global security by ending a long-running dispute.


That weasel Cameron was doing the diplomatic rounds not long ago so I wouldn't rule anything out.

Argentina has already welcomed the deal, calling it a “step in the right direction”.

Diana Mondino, the foreign minister, promised the country would gain “full sovereignty” of the Falkland Islands.


How would the British public respond to any moves in that direction? Would it be apathy or perhaps stir some remnants of pride over the events of 1982 and the loss of those brave lives, including several close friends?
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Fwiw, here is my take. I have been to many of the places listed, sometimes for work, and sometimes for leisure. In every case, I made a point of talking to the locals to get their views on 'being British'.

The BVI and Caymans are far too valuable for businessmen, (and more than a few politicians), to store their offshore monies in shell companies.
Bermuda is more American than British anyway. Self-financing, and a useful pre-retirement posting for High Commissioners, but I am sure other suitably insignificant postings can be found.
Poor old Montserrat has been all but destroyed since the eruption of the Soufrière Hills volcano in 1995. Most of its inhabitants who survived live in the UK or Antigua. Anguilla is so insignificant that no-one would notice if that tiny bit of pink disappeared from the FCDO map.
Gibraltar: I think the US (and by extension NATO ), would have more than a word or two to say if we abandoned Gibraltar. It doesn't cost us anything to run, and the citizens are solidly supportive of the fact that they are British. I have often wondered what Spain would do with it anyway. No Spaniard I have ever spoken to has been able to give me an answer to this. Maybe a Spanish Macau?

Lest I get a visit from a couple of chaps in a Range Rover - other government cars are available (apparently), I will only say that
Ascension is not only useful as a refuelling stop en route to the Falklands, which qv. St Helena is little more than a lump of rock, and the totally unnecessary building of an airport that suffers from crosswinds that make Funchal look becalmed, and once having arrived, there is little to see or do there anyway. A large percentage of 'Saints' as they are known live on Ascension and the UK. Tristan da Cunha is almost inaccessible and of little use to anyone.

Falkland Islands. When I was there, the general consensus amongst the locals was that offshore exploration had revealed significant quantities of oil, but it would be difficult and therefore expensive to extract, but might be worth holding on to until oil prices increased, hence the Building of Mount Pleasant to protect them. The last I heard was that the oil companies were losing interest, and the economy is restricted to lamb (known as 365 on the islands because there's not a lot else to eat,) and wool production, together with fishing licences. Like Gibraltar, it is self-financing and receives little or no government support. Again, if you ask the man on the Buenos Aires omnibus what their interest in the Falklands (Malvinas) is, they will simply answer that they are Argentinian, though I strongly suspect that the politicos may have one eye on possible future oil revenues.
Given the current unpleasantness in the Middle East, I cannot imagine Dhekelia or Akrotiri being returned to Cypriot control. Like Gibraltar, they are strategic, and NATO would get involved in any attempt to dispose of them. There is also the listening station on Mount Troodos, which does not appear on the map.
The Pitcairn Islands are a problem. Just a few lumps of rock in the South Pacific, almost inaccessible and of no use to anyone except the descendants of the Bounty mutiny. Less than 50 people remain on the island today.
British Antarctic Territory. I suppose Britain has to maintain a presence in Antarctica - after all, the other major powers (and a few minor ones) have a slice, so why not?
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#6639 Post by OFSO »

Watching TV last night I had to turn off the program on sheep dog trials as the BBC employed a moron as interviewer of competitors . "Why did you come here ?" and "How did it feel to win last year?" and "How difficult is the competition ?" were a few of her gems that had me swearing at the screen. All instead of actually showing the competition.
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One copper on the beat per 12,000 residents. In Botswana you can't move without bumping into one.
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