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#1 Post by MoreAviation » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:45 am

It looks like the venerable, nay redoubtable, A-10 will live to fight another day as it becomes clear to some in the US congress that there is no imminent credible replacement for this aircraft in the crucial area of CAS. As for the boneheads in the USAF who are keen to stick to the original replacement schedule, they should busted down a rank or two and investigated to check which company they may be secretly beholden to for a sinecure after their mediocre careers are over. If found to be in violation of good governance these officers should make their way immediately to civvy street with a dishonourable discharge with no benefits and holes in their underpants to show off their mangy dishonourable arses...

WASHINGTON – Although the U.S. Air Force has been fighting for years to sunset the A-10 attack plane so it can move resources to newer fighters, Secretary Deborah Lee James tells Aviation Week the air arm may once again delay plans to retire the Thunderbolt II.  

The Air Force’s latest plan is to begin gradually sunsetting the A-10 in fiscal year 2018, with the last aircraft heading to the boneyard in fiscal 2021. But Congress is once again pushing back, arguing that divesting the so-called Warthog leaves the Air Force without a dedicated close-air support (CAS) platform, leaving soldiers on the ground vulnerable to enemy fire.
“The plan has us gradually retiring the A-10 beginning in the final couple of years of the five-year plan, but Congress appears to be saying no to that,” James said. “We would also consider: could we keep the A-10s, by different approaches, longer in our inventory than we project?”

This would not be the first time the Air Force has caved to pressure from Congress and the public to keep the A-10 around longer than planned. For the past several years, the Air Force has attempted to retire the A-10 in order to move precious maintainers and resources to standing up the fifth-generation F-35. But each year the Air Force has shifted its budget plans, most recently citing the Warthog’s critical role in the campaign against Islamic State terrorists in Iraq and Syria.

“I want to be absolutely crystal clear that we stand by 150 percent the close-air support mission and there’s a variety of aircraft that contribute to that,” James stressed. “Bottom line is we have got the backs of the ground troops and we are going to continue to be experts on CAS.”


http://aviationweek.com/defense/us-air- ... f544c43629

Those who claim the F-35 is ready to take over the CAS role are clearly high on paraffin. It is possible that this aircraft may never be ready for this role...

Another of the F-35’s basic shortcomings is the lack of a usable cannon. The Block 3i aircraft lacks the ability to employ the cannon because the software needed for it is a Block 3F development and has yet to be completed. This issue has been reported many times before.
Now we learn that there are doubts that the most recent version of the plane’s complicated helmet, which is the only way to aim the cannon, will be accurate enough to reliably hit air-to-air or ground targets.

This latest DOT&E report also makes public another problem with the cannon on the Air Force’s variant of the plane, the F-35A. This is the only variant that includes an internal cannon. The variants for the Marine Corps and Navy both use an external belly-mounted gun pod.

In order to keep the F-35A stealthy, the internal cannon sits behind a small door that opens when the cannon is fired. The Air Force proudly released a video of the first time an F-35A test fired its cannon in flight. Now we know that the simple action of opening the small door causes the plane to turn slightly because of the door’s drag, possibly enough to cause the cannon to miss.

The DOT&E memo reports that these door-induced aiming errors “exceed accuracy specifications” which will make it quite difficult for pilots to hit targets. And since the Air Force’s F-35 only holds 181 rounds — as opposed to 511 for the F-16 and 1,100 for the A-10 — every bullet will count....

F-35 close air support threatens troops on the ground
As the debate continues about the future of the close air support mission, one thing is certain: the F-35 simply is not ready to support ground troops, and there are plenty of reasons to doubt it ever will be.

This latest DOT&E memorandum undermines one of the fundamental arguments in favor of the F-35 in the CAS role — that the F-35 will need to provide close air support in places with high levels of enemy air defenses, a mission that would require stealth capabilities.

But the battles in which CAS is needed don’t generally take place in areas where there are high levels of enemy air defenses. The memo points out that close air support is normally conducted in low-air defense threat environments.

This is a simple acknowledgement of the “close” in close air support.

When close air support is discussed, it is important to consider the entire military system, both air and ground forces.

These forces support each other mutually. By the time the ground troops who engage the enemy in close combat get involved, our military has already cleared out the heavy air defense. And the enemy ground troops will not be dragging around bulky, lightly armored, slow-to-move, hard-to-resupply “high threat” missile systems into the battle area because they will be too busy maneuvering and dodging bullets in the ground fight.

Beyond that, the F-35’s ability to perform any CAS right now is extremely limited.

As the DOT&E memorandum says clearly, “The F-35A in the Block 3i configuration has numerous limitations which make it less effective overall at CAS than most currently-fielded fighter aircraft like the F-15E, F-16, F-18 and A-10.”

As mentioned earlier, the F-35A, now declared “Initially Operationally Capable,” can only carry two bombs, both of which are too big to be safely used near friendly troops. And even if these bombs could be used in CAS, the plane has to immediately fly back to its base to reload after only one pass over an enemy formation.
For F-35As, that base is likely to be far from the battlefield since the plane needs an 8,000 foot concrete runway with a massive logistical footprint, thus seriously slowing CAS response times.

Air support for friendly troops fighting the enemy is exactly where the lack of a usable cannon is most distinctly felt — and the F-35 won’t have a usable and test-proven cannon until 2019, at best.

Cannons are the most effective weapon in far more CAS situations than rockets (which the F-35A currently does not carry) or a couple of guided bombs (which it does). This is true especially when the plane needs to engage a target in a “danger close” situation, with the enemy in very close proximity to friendly troops.

A GBU-12, the smaller of the two bombs the F-35A can currently employ, is a 500-pound bomb. At 250 meters (820 feet), a 500-pound bomb has a 10 percent chance of incapacitating a friendly soldier based on the military’s risk-estimate table. That might not seem like much, but history has proven that most firefights actually take place at considerably less than 100 meters.

If F-35As are the aircraft providing CAS, this means that enemies closing with our troops will have plenty of room — 150 meters or more — to maneuver free of fire from above.

An effective cannon on the plane closes that gap. The F-35 is supposed to eventually use a 25-millimeter cannon. The risk-estimate factor for that weapon is 100 meters. Of course the safe distance depends on how accurate the aircraft platform and aiming system is.

As noted in the DOT&E memo, the simple act of opening the cannon door on the Air Force’s variant pulls the plane to one side — which could shift the bullet impacts either closer toward friendly troops or away from the enemy’s (thereby rendering the attack dangerous or useless).

But that presupposes the F-35 will actually be able to stay over the battlefield long enough to be on hand to drop its bombs or fire its cannon exactly when needed. The F-35 is a notorious gas-guzzler that relies heavily on aerial tankers to stay on station for any length of time to be useful for the ground troops.

According to the memorandum, “the F-35 has high fuel burn rates and slow air refueling rates that extend air refueling times and decreases overall on-station time.”
Unfortunately, the troops on the ground can’t call a time-out when their air support has to leave the battle to refuel or reload. The high fuel burn rate and high drag of the F-35 creates a plane that has “short legs” and inadequate on-station times.

All variants and versions of the F-35 share this problem. Current short-legged fighters mitigate this deficiency by rotating flights of planes back to the tanker while another remains over the battlefield. But with the well-documented problems the services’ maintainers have keeping the F-35 flightworthy, it is doubtful there will be enough flyable planes to make such a rotation practical any time soon.

Actual current F-35 sortie rates reveal the severity of the problem — today’s F-35s are flying one sortie every five days.
In other words, a squadron deployment of 12 F-35s to Afghanistan or Syria — such as is typical for F-16s or A-10s — would only be able to put up slightly more than one two-ship mission a day to cover the whole country


https://warisboring.com/the-f-35-stealt ... .6u3ijkud9


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... -Memo.html

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Re: A-10

#2 Post by Lone Ranger » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:11 pm

Pardon my out-of-touch-edness, I got bored following the story of the low cost, replacement for the F16 about a decade ago, but now that it costs more than most airliners, are they honestly considering it in the CAS role?, You can buy a shed load of Shilkas for 100 million squid-a-roonies
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Re: A-10

#3 Post by More Aviation » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:25 pm

I appears that the gloves might have to come off... I suspect that the F35's CAS feet of clay might be revealed if this comes to pass...

Lawmakers want to make retirement of the U.S. Air Force’s beloved A-10 attack aircraft contingent on a flyoff between the Warthog and the new F-35, as well as completion of the fifth-generation fighter’s final test period.  

The move, outlined in the reconciled $618.7 billion defense policy bill for 2017, is a win for A-10 champions on Capitol Hill, who have been sparring with the Air Force for years over the service’s plan to sunset the venerable Warthog to move precious resources and maintainers to the F-35. It also fuels speculation that the Air Force will give up trying to retire the A-10 for the foreseeable future, a move several top service officials have recently alluded to in interviews with Aviation Week.

In the compromise bill, unveiled Nov. 30, House and Senate negotiators adopted a provision that would mandate the Pentagon’s top weapons tester complete comparison tests of the F-35 and A-10 performing the Warthog’s primary missions: close-air support (CAS) of soldiers in the heat of battle, combat search and rescue, and airborne forward air control. The chief weapons tester must report to Congress on the results of this test, as well as the findings of the F-35’s final test period, called initial operational test and evaluation (IOT&E), expected to begin in 2018.

The Air Force may begin divesting the A-10 only after the secretary submits a report to lawmakers on the results of IOT&E and the flyoff, a plan to address any concerns about the F-35’s capability, and a strategy to preserve the service’s ability to conduct the missions, according to the text of the reconciled bill. The House expects to hold a floor vote on the bill on Friday, with the Senate following early next week.

At the very least, this likely means that the Air Force can’t begin to retire the A-10 until 2019 at the earliest. Although the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) is optimistic IOT&E will begin in early 2018—already a delay from the planned start date of August 2017—the director of operational test and evaluation told Aviation Week recently that the final test phase could be delayed until early 2019.   

Pushback from Congress and the public has successfully forced the Air Force to postpone the A-10’s retirement date year after year, most recently outlining a plan to begin drawing down squadrons in fiscal 2018. The decision to sunset the Warthog was purely budget driven, the Air Force has said, with leaders stressing that they cannot afford to keep flying both the A-10 and the new F-35 in the current fiscal climate.

But pressure has been building to do away with the plan altogether. The multirole F-35 has been billed as an across-the-board replacement for all of the Air Force’s legacy fighter jets, but critics say the F-35 cannot match the A-10 as a single-mission CAS platform—a claim service leaders have acknowledged over the past year.
The U.S. Government Accountability Office even got involved this summer, with the congressional watchdog saying in an August report that the Air Force did not do its due diligence in assessing the risks posed by retiring the Warthog before the end of its expected service life, including potential readiness gaps.

And with a new administration set to take the reins in January, the Department of Defense may have more cash to spare to support both the F-35 and the A-10.  President-Elect Donald Trump has said he will do away with sequestration in the first 100 days of his term, as well as increase the Air Force’s fighter fleet to 1,200 combat-coded aircraft.
While government planners hammer out the details of if and when the A-10 will go away, the Air Force depots, at least, are preparing to keep the Warthog flying well into the future.  

“They have re-geared up, we’ve turned on the depot line, we’re building it back up in capacity and supply chain,” said Air Force Materiel Command chief Gen. Ellen Pawlikowski in an Oct. 24 interview. “Our command, anyway, is approaching this as another airplane that we are sustaining indefinitely.”


http://aviationweek.com/defense/congres ... -35-flyoff

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