BA in the Times
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: BA in the Times
Tomorrow (Friday) last years financial results are released, rumours are circulating that they are going to be impressive, seeing as the last ones before the pandemic hit was a £1.8 billion profit and we didn’t receive a penny in bonuses, we’re not optimistic
When all else fails, read the instructions.
Re: BA in the Times
Woody, if it is a large profit I feel that you will miss out again, reason, the management mob will all get their share before anything dribbles down
to the working class. Just as an aside, Quaintarse yesterday announced a profit of $ 1.4 billion for the last 6 months. Robbinbastards
to the working class. Just as an aside, Quaintarse yesterday announced a profit of $ 1.4 billion for the last 6 months. Robbinbastards
- ExSp33db1rd
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 3242
- Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:51 am
- Location: Lesser Antipode
- Gender:
- Age: 89
Re: BA in the Times
but Wee Willie Wotsit - the architect of our Staff Travel disaster - recently retired with a multi million bonus and Staff Travel for life, whereas our Pension increase, if any, should be based on RIP, as contracted a million years ago, not CPI as they insist on using now. ( OK, I know that there is some temporary adjustment being applied, but they have revoked on the original agreement, like Staff Travel for life. Barstewards ).........we didn’t receive a penny in bonuses, we’re not optimistic
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: BA in the Times
£303 million profit before exceptional items, compared to £1.9 Billion loss in 2021, as predicted no mention of any bonuses for those who helped achieve this
When all else fails, read the instructions.
- barkingmad
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 5497
- Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:13 pm
- Location: Another Planet
- Gender:
- Age: 75
Re: BA in the Times
Despite all the woke and diversity, inclusion and equity bollocks dispensed by BA management in the last few insane years, this incident shows we just need more "staff education".
So the external consultants in D I E and E S G and any other acronyms for wasting money will be tendering in the rush of new contracts;
"Family turned away from flight in Amsterdam: 'This is discrimination.
A black and ethnic minority (BAME) couple with a three-month-old baby accused British Airways staff of "discrimination" when they were not allowed to board their flight and a white passenger was.
The family, from Kent, was due to travel from Amsterdam Schiphol to London Gatwick.
They had yet to check in due to flight delays but arrived at the departure gate where they understood their boarding passes would be issued, the Daily Mailreported.
But when they got to the gate they were turned away and unable to board their flight home.
The incident was filmed by a witness Joshua Arthur and uploaded to Instagram. In the footage, the man can be heard saying: “This is discrimination.”
Mr Arthur said that family and another male passenger had not checked in, but were told by airport staff that they could obtain a boarding pass at the gate. They were then allowed to pass through security.
However, at the gate, airport staff allowed the male passenger, who was white, to board but not the young family – even though none of them had checked in, Mr Arthur wrote in a post next to his video.
“No one knows why they were turned away as they were in the exact same situation as the Englishman,” he wrote. “The BA gate staff repeatedly refused to answer that question when asked by both the couple and other passengers.”
He added that when “the pilot and cabin crew heard what happened they immediately tried to search for the couple and get them to board the plane. But unfortunately the airport police had already ushered them away.”
A second video shared by Mr Arthur on Instagram shows an altercation at the gate.
Chris Burnage, the male passenger who was allowed to board the flight, wrote in a comment underneath Mr Arthur’s Instagram post: “Without this young couple I would not have been able to get through security and to the gate. I proceeded through security quicker than them only because I had hand luggage.
“I told the gate staff about this young family when I arrived but they did issue me with a boarding pass. The couple and their baby appeared about 15 minutes later and were refused boarding passes without a reason ever being given.”
It’s unclear why the family were denied boarding.
A British Airways spokesperson said: “We are in direct contact with our customers regarding this issue. We’re taking this extremely seriously and are currently conducting a thorough investigation with the ground handling agents and Schiphol airport to fully understand what happened.”
In a statement to The Independent, the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee (airport police) said: “It has come to our attention that the conduct of the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee captured in this footage has received criticism. The video, however, only shows a small part of the incident. What was not caught on camera is that this individual had received multiple verbal requests to stand further back and keep more distance from Marechaussee personnel.
“When he failed to comply with these repeated requests, the Marechaussee pushed him away. Taking into consideration the verbal requests expressed beforehand, this was a justified response. The reason why the family was not allowed to board the plane is something between BA and its passengers.”
Well done by the flight crew but "null points" for the ground handling staff.
So the external consultants in D I E and E S G and any other acronyms for wasting money will be tendering in the rush of new contracts;
"Family turned away from flight in Amsterdam: 'This is discrimination.
A black and ethnic minority (BAME) couple with a three-month-old baby accused British Airways staff of "discrimination" when they were not allowed to board their flight and a white passenger was.
The family, from Kent, was due to travel from Amsterdam Schiphol to London Gatwick.
They had yet to check in due to flight delays but arrived at the departure gate where they understood their boarding passes would be issued, the Daily Mailreported.
But when they got to the gate they were turned away and unable to board their flight home.
The incident was filmed by a witness Joshua Arthur and uploaded to Instagram. In the footage, the man can be heard saying: “This is discrimination.”
Mr Arthur said that family and another male passenger had not checked in, but were told by airport staff that they could obtain a boarding pass at the gate. They were then allowed to pass through security.
However, at the gate, airport staff allowed the male passenger, who was white, to board but not the young family – even though none of them had checked in, Mr Arthur wrote in a post next to his video.
“No one knows why they were turned away as they were in the exact same situation as the Englishman,” he wrote. “The BA gate staff repeatedly refused to answer that question when asked by both the couple and other passengers.”
He added that when “the pilot and cabin crew heard what happened they immediately tried to search for the couple and get them to board the plane. But unfortunately the airport police had already ushered them away.”
A second video shared by Mr Arthur on Instagram shows an altercation at the gate.
Chris Burnage, the male passenger who was allowed to board the flight, wrote in a comment underneath Mr Arthur’s Instagram post: “Without this young couple I would not have been able to get through security and to the gate. I proceeded through security quicker than them only because I had hand luggage.
“I told the gate staff about this young family when I arrived but they did issue me with a boarding pass. The couple and their baby appeared about 15 minutes later and were refused boarding passes without a reason ever being given.”
It’s unclear why the family were denied boarding.
A British Airways spokesperson said: “We are in direct contact with our customers regarding this issue. We’re taking this extremely seriously and are currently conducting a thorough investigation with the ground handling agents and Schiphol airport to fully understand what happened.”
In a statement to The Independent, the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee (airport police) said: “It has come to our attention that the conduct of the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee captured in this footage has received criticism. The video, however, only shows a small part of the incident. What was not caught on camera is that this individual had received multiple verbal requests to stand further back and keep more distance from Marechaussee personnel.
“When he failed to comply with these repeated requests, the Marechaussee pushed him away. Taking into consideration the verbal requests expressed beforehand, this was a justified response. The reason why the family was not allowed to board the plane is something between BA and its passengers.”
Well done by the flight crew but "null points" for the ground handling staff.
- Rwy in Sight
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 6770
- Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:04 pm
- Location: Lost in an FIR somewhere
- Gender:
Re: BA in the Times
How do you reach a departure gate without a boarding pass?
Re: BA in the Times
Over here if you are non-reving or on a buddy pass the app or the ticket agent will create a pass to get through security.
It will have flight and gate number, just no seat assignment.
PP
It will have flight and gate number, just no seat assignment.
PP
- Rwy in Sight
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 6770
- Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:04 pm
- Location: Lost in an FIR somewhere
- Gender:
Re: BA in the Times
So the couple belonging to one of these categories. Did the pax who boarded the flight was a ticketed pax who has paid a commercial available fare?
- barkingmad
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 5497
- Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:13 pm
- Location: Another Planet
- Gender:
- Age: 75
- barkingmad
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 5497
- Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:13 pm
- Location: Another Planet
- Gender:
- Age: 75
Re: BA in the Times
Damn and blast, there goes the dividend from my 336 shares yet again!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65781536
What with the ‘plague’, Ukraine, Joe Biden, Brexit/BRINO, monkeypox, energy costs, Steer Calmer and Phil Schofield, the entire World is crumbling before my tired eyes.
To make ends meet I may just have to volunteer for the RAF as one of those odd PQ & REs who used to shuffle around the parade ground at Henlow, seeing as how they’re now short of pale, male and definitely stale pilots?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65781536
What with the ‘plague’, Ukraine, Joe Biden, Brexit/BRINO, monkeypox, energy costs, Steer Calmer and Phil Schofield, the entire World is crumbling before my tired eyes.
To make ends meet I may just have to volunteer for the RAF as one of those odd PQ & REs who used to shuffle around the parade ground at Henlow, seeing as how they’re now short of pale, male and definitely stale pilots?
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: BA in the Times
No wonder that the pay negotiations are taking so long
When all else fails, read the instructions.
- barkingmad
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 5497
- Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:13 pm
- Location: Another Planet
- Gender:
- Age: 75
Re: BA IT
Might this be the reason?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... mment-text
That’s got me really worrit as now the hackers know of how much of my pension I am spending on Viagra and similar products?
Apparently the protection against hacking was easier than they thought if this report is correct;
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/british ... -gdpr-fine
Do the bosses get the connection between the letters BA & IT featuring far too frequently in the negative press and are they addressing this issue?
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: Impact of coronavirus on aviation industry.
When all else fails, read the instructions.
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: BA in the Times
When all else fails, read the instructions.
Re: BA in the Times
But are you in the "losing the luggage" department or the "finding the luggage" department?
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: BA in the Times
Mainly the losing it side of things, but if we lose enough they pay us overtime to help find it
When all else fails, read the instructions.
- tango15
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 2508
- Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:43 pm
- Location: East Midlands
- Gender:
- Age: 79
Re: BA in the Times
Chloe in the BBC article was lucky. Back in the 70s, when the Shah was in power, I flew to Teheran on BOAC. My baggage did not. I was on a two-week trip to Iran, India, and Pakistan. Many of the meetings were with senior beings who would be wearing Western suits. I went into downtown Teheran and eventually managed to find a pair of jeans that fitted me, plus a matching pink shirt and tie. It would have been possible to have a shirt or three made, and even a suit, but I was flying to another part of Iran the following day, and then on to what was still Bombay.
Despite numerous inquiries with my PIR firmly in hand, my baggage was never traced for the duration of the trip, and my attire became more bizarre by the day. About a week after returning home, I was sitting having lunch one day, when a taxi pulled up outside the door. Thinking he had the wrong house, I ignored him at first, but then I saw him retrieving my suitcase from the boot. All that was left in it was some clean underwear and a pair of shoes. My two safari suits, (one in cream and one in pale blue, because I'm sure you are dying to know - I blame Roger Moore), tailor-made in Hong Kong, were probably on a market stall somewhere in the Middle East. I had kept all the receipts for clothes bought whilst away from home, plus a substantial claim for all the other items, including a large Swiss Army knife, that I never traveled without. The claim was paid promptly and without demur.
Despite numerous inquiries with my PIR firmly in hand, my baggage was never traced for the duration of the trip, and my attire became more bizarre by the day. About a week after returning home, I was sitting having lunch one day, when a taxi pulled up outside the door. Thinking he had the wrong house, I ignored him at first, but then I saw him retrieving my suitcase from the boot. All that was left in it was some clean underwear and a pair of shoes. My two safari suits, (one in cream and one in pale blue, because I'm sure you are dying to know - I blame Roger Moore), tailor-made in Hong Kong, were probably on a market stall somewhere in the Middle East. I had kept all the receipts for clothes bought whilst away from home, plus a substantial claim for all the other items, including a large Swiss Army knife, that I never traveled without. The claim was paid promptly and without demur.
Re: BA in the Times
With a respected member of TOP, I attended Farnborough airshow some years ago.
Said member had flown in from overseas and had purchased enroute a Swiss Army knife to replace one that he had owned earlier in his life (sentimental reason).
When we got to 'security' (for entrance to the show) he was relieved of his newly-purchased treasure - "You can't bring that in here"
- Woody
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 10321
- Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
- Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
- Age: 59
Re: BA in the Times
I look forward to receiving my bonus soon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/articles/c51wyey7v6jo
For ant plane spotters G-ZZZB was broken up at DGX/ EGSY in 2021
https://www.bbc.co.uk/articles/c51wyey7v6jo
For ant plane spotters G-ZZZB was broken up at DGX/ EGSY in 2021
When all else fails, read the instructions.