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NZ children supposedy abandoned in Australia by their parents.

#1 Post by EA01 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:46 am

“His story was his parents moved over here from New Zealand, left him and his siblings here and moved back to New Zealand,” he says.

Thanks so much for this loving behavior, abandoning your children & expecting us to pay for it...real classy people

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/tr ... 5066b2b9f2

I know you are not gunna like it John Hill...perhaps you could do something to prevent it?

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#2 Post by G-CPTN » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:15 pm

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#3 Post by Karearea » Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:39 pm

It looks as if someone is doing something about it:
ESuarve believes in changing young lives through second chances, deep respect and love.
Hold Yourself Well. This is the driving philosophy beneath Everything Suarve Inc or ESuarve for short, and something this charity founder Joseph Te Puni-Fromont learned the hard way.

“That’s what we teach the young guys that no matter what, you have to hold yourself well and have enough strength to walk away from peer pressure,” he said.

The Ormeau based not-for-profit helps disengaged youth, many of whom have been referred by the police or courts, through a 10-week Big Brother Program.

And Te Puni-Fromont operates from vast personal experience having lost several friends to suicide, drugs and alcohol from a young age.

By 15, he was expelled from school, at 16 he was caught drug dealing by his police officer father and at 20 he moved from New Zealand with $400 to his name and no family and friends in Australia.

“Between the ages of 20 and 29 I was working in the construction industry and fell into a lifestyle of making good money and was living from weekend to weekend doing drugs and alcohol. I was just getting to a point where I started thinking about suicide,” he said.

“I was just trying to get to every weekend and blast myself. I was always a good person but I also made dumb choices. I always had respect and a good work ethic – two things that have gotten me to the point I am today.

“I knew I couldn’t continue the cycle I was in. I just went cold turkey, I had to.”

Te Puni-Fromont said his turning point was when his sister and brother-in-law sent him to a one-day men’s group aimed at teaching males how to deal with emotions.

“I started doing multiple programs, learning different things about myself and how to be more grateful,” he said.

“It’s about dealing with emotions in a safe environment and talking without that fear of being judged.

“When it came to devising my program, I sat down and thought about everything I wished I had been shown when I was younger and my program is built on mental health and wellbeing first and foremost.”

Te Puni-Fromont started the not-for-profit in March 2020 with a $25,000 loan from friends to support eight at-risk youths. Ten weeks later those eight youths were working in construction and are still in contact today.

The program spiralled and since opening, has helped 142 young people, aged between 15 and 26, 90 per cent of whom are male. Of those, 31 were identified as high risk of heading into juvenile detention. Only one has re-offended.

Participants are involved in everything from ice baths, meditation, journaling, mock interviews and exposure to potential industries in which they may wish to work.

“Because a lot of young people are homeless, we are now building tiny homes as part of our program to give back to the community especially the communities where the young people are coming from.

“There have been so many times along the way where our doors have almost shut. We are probably at about 30 per cent of our potential at the moment and running on the smell of an oily rag and love and passion.

ESuarve has been nominated by the Department of Employment, Small Business and Training as one of three finalists out of 800 organisations in the Community Initiative of the Year to be announced on July 22.

Te Puni-Fromont’s vision is for a retreat-style property on the Gold Coast from which to conduct programs for at-risk youth.

“I see myself in every one of these boys and girls when they walk in. And they walk out so proud,” he said.

“Absolutely there are days when we get it wrong and we apologise. We don’t have the answers for everything but we will be honest and authentic.

“This is not a program, this is a whole lifestyle change.”
The charity celebrating a 90 per cent success rate and slashing youth crime

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#4 Post by John Hill » Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:08 pm

Good to see a Kiwi doing something about the toxic environment young people fall in to on arrival in 'Horse Trucking Failure'.
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#5 Post by bob2s » Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:09 am

John Hill wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:08 pm
Good to see a Kiwi doing something about the toxic environment young people fall in to on arrival in 'Horse Trucking Failure'.
It seems to me, that it is their own fault they fall into crime as there are other choices they could have made, perhaps it is their low IQ or pure bloody
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#6 Post by Pinky the pilot » Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:44 am

It seems to me, that it is their own fault they fall into crime as there are other choices they could have made,
Indeed! No-one would have forced them into committing crimes. It would have been their decision to do so.
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#7 Post by John Hill » Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:08 am

They are not criminals when they leave NZ but somehow the environment they move to induces them to offend.
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#8 Post by EA01 » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:10 am

I would contest that abandoning your children is criminal....unfathomable to my mind,...but they seem to know they can abandon their children here and leave them to fend for themselves...very sad indeed...

I've gone from a hatred of their criminal ways....to sadness that this is how their parents abandon them before returning to NZ....I cannot comprehend how people could do that to their own children....but there you are.

Thank heavens this chap seems to be having some success with these poor abandoned islander children....essentially & intentionally orphaned by their parents....what chance do they have in life!

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#9 Post by EA01 » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:20 am

I suppose the environment they move into is the little kiwi enclaves of south brisbane where they meet & mingle with other drug dealers and criminals and learn from them.....but what would i know....

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#10 Post by John Hill » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:54 am

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Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:10 am
I would contest that abandoning your children is criminal....unfathomable to my mind,...but they seem to know they can abandon their children here and leave them to fend for themselves...very sad indeed...

I've gone from a hatred of their criminal ways....to sadness that this is how their parents abandon them before returning to NZ....I cannot comprehend how people could do that to their own children....but there you are.

Thank heavens this chap seems to be having some success with these poor abandoned islander children....essentially & intentionally orphaned by their parents....what chance do they have in life!
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#11 Post by John Hill » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:55 am

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Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:20 am
I suppose the environment they move into is the little kiwi enclaves of south brisbane where they meet & mingle with other drug dealers and criminals and learn from them.....but what would i know....
Has that ever stopped you?
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#12 Post by llondel » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:04 am

Wow. I thought the traditional English dislike of the French was bad. It's got nothing on this, and the French are only across 20-30 miles of water.

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#13 Post by John Hill » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:59 am

He is probably not even true dinkum!
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#14 Post by EA01 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:56 am

Lets just hope this guy has continued success for the sake of these children.

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#15 Post by Rossian » Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:21 am

Why do these threads always seem to descend into pissing contests, and bad tempered ones too??

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#16 Post by EA01 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:48 am

Well, I'm a big enough person to apologise for any offence I've caused for reporting anything factual....and for that I do. (?)

But I'm not in a position to apologise on behalf of multiple media outlets that report on the court findings of a Westminster system....

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#17 Post by EA01 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:59 am

Or for offending the 'the perpetually offended"

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#18 Post by admin2 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:03 pm

Admin has been watching this 'Battle of The Tasman' for a while...... :-?

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#19 Post by EA01 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:11 pm

Fine I'll pull my head in if that is the implied issue, but it will not change the factual reality.....no matter how unpalatable it may be...

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#20 Post by EA01 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:18 pm

If KIWI youth support workers themselves report Maori parents abandoning children in Australia & returning to New Zealand...is that my fault?..

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