Foam on the range
- Stoneboat
- Capt
- Posts: 1947
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:09 pm
- Location: 50-13.5N/66-16.0W
- Gender:
- Age: 77
Foam on the range
Apparently at Air Transat's hangar at Pearson Toronto.
-
- Capt
- Posts: 1245
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: just passing thru on my way to
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
Awww...poor guys. Had to hit the button once. That stuff does stink and takes forever to clean up. The stink lasts a bit beyond forever. It does however, work.
History does Not repeat itself through time. It does however, sometimes rhyme.
Re: Foam on the range
You can see the, now, bankrupt Air Greek, or whatever they call it, in the background of the 3rd picture. Maybe it started to burn?
What happened, really?
What happened, really?
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".
Re: Foam on the range
Ah, OK, fire suppression system malfunctions:
Foam machine malfunctions at Pearson International Airport
Foam machine malfunctions at Pearson International Airport
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".
Re: Foam on the range
I wouldn't like to be working in a restricted space, such as a fuel tank or underflow area and unable to evacuate swiftly, you would just be smothered and overwhelmed, it this an automatic event, or does someone have to press a button?
-
- Capt
- Posts: 1245
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: just passing thru on my way to
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
Both.......
It fairly low density and not toxic so you can still breathe.
It fairly low density and not toxic so you can still breathe.
History does Not repeat itself through time. It does however, sometimes rhyme.
Re: Foam on the range
Thanks, still wouldn't like to experience it
- Fox3WheresMyBanana
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 13669
- Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:51 pm
- Location: Great White North
- Gender:
- Age: 61
Re: Foam on the range
"What does this button do?....."
-
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 2083
- Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:05 pm
- Location: Under the blossom
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
Has anyone checked if the Lady Godiva Marching Band from U of T Engineering Soc was anywhere near the hangar?
Foam on the range? I thought this thread might have been a rant on the culinary form......lentil foam wtf?
Foam on the range? I thought this thread might have been a rant on the culinary form......lentil foam wtf?
Re: Foam on the range
They are too busy with Frosh Week...
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".
-
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 2083
- Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:05 pm
- Location: Under the blossom
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
That's why I asked!
- Stoneboat
- Capt
- Posts: 1947
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:09 pm
- Location: 50-13.5N/66-16.0W
- Gender:
- Age: 77
Re: Foam on the range
BackToAllNightLights wrote:Both.......
It fairly low density and not toxic so you can still breathe.
Remember that poor bastard in the Air Spray B-26 wing tank flash fire in Red Deer a few years back?
-
- Capt
- Posts: 1245
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: just passing thru on my way to
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
No, actually, and a search comes up with little on it.
2 B26s written off in hangar fire - C-GPUC and C-GWLU
zero fatalities..no word on injuries.
2 B26s written off in hangar fire - C-GPUC and C-GWLU
zero fatalities..no word on injuries.
History does Not repeat itself through time. It does however, sometimes rhyme.
- 500N
- Chief Pilot
- Posts: 6985
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:27 pm
- Location: The Great Southern Land - Melbourne, Aus
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
Didn't this system go off in some US military hangar which was full of Blackhawks ?
Good system though.
Good system though.
- Stoneboat
- Capt
- Posts: 1947
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:09 pm
- Location: 50-13.5N/66-16.0W
- Gender:
- Age: 77
Re: Foam on the range
BackToAllNightLights wrote:No, actually, and a search comes up with little on it.
2 B26s written off in hangar fire - C-GPUC and C-GWLU
zero fatalities..no word on injuries.
Ok, I thought the guy had died, he was badly burned. I forget the exact sequence of events, but he was working on a wing tank, enclosed space and all that, and apparently an electrical spark set the fire off.
-
- Snr FO
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:09 pm
- Location: Close to the Heroes of Telemark
- Gender:
- Age: 70
Re: Foam on the range
Some time, long ago I was on a 150.00 tdw tanker built in Finland, it was fitted with the most modern Halon engine room fire fighting equipment available. It consisted of high pressure (50 bar if memory serves) spheres strategically located around the engine room, one was in the control room.
The system was remote activated and when the Chief Engineer, who had taken the boat out from the yard was going home on vacation, did a guided tour of his domaine with his replacement, he proudly opened the cabinet controlling this sophisticated equipment, pointed to a red button and said: "whatever you do, do not push this" and promptly pushed it.
All the Halon was released, a motorman sitting having a quiet cup of coffee in front of the nozzle on the sphere in the control room found himself wrong way up at the opposite side of the room.
With no total flooding fi-fi capability now available, the ship was no longer seaworthy, pulled in to Setubal in Portugal and had to wait for weeks for the correct Halon to be delivered.
One very expensive brain fart and one very red faced Chief.
Per
The system was remote activated and when the Chief Engineer, who had taken the boat out from the yard was going home on vacation, did a guided tour of his domaine with his replacement, he proudly opened the cabinet controlling this sophisticated equipment, pointed to a red button and said: "whatever you do, do not push this" and promptly pushed it.
All the Halon was released, a motorman sitting having a quiet cup of coffee in front of the nozzle on the sphere in the control room found himself wrong way up at the opposite side of the room.
With no total flooding fi-fi capability now available, the ship was no longer seaworthy, pulled in to Setubal in Portugal and had to wait for weeks for the correct Halon to be delivered.
One very expensive brain fart and one very red faced Chief.
Per
Re: Foam on the range
I am surprised that the activating button would be "push". When I worked inside computer rooms with halon fire suppression systems the activating button (50 mm diameter) was a "pull" type and had a clear plastic cover that had to be lifted to activate the button.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".
-
- Capt
- Posts: 1245
- Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:19 pm
- Location: just passing thru on my way to
- Gender:
Re: Foam on the range
That would probably be due to the increased hazards of halon fire suppression systems. A couple of seconds of extra thought before initiating.
Suffocation
High concentrations of halon can create an oxygen-deficient environment. This can cause people to suffocate.
Frostbite
Placing skin in contact with the liquid being sprayed from the extinguisher can cause chilled skin and frostbite.
Skin and Eye Irritation
Like most toxins, halon fire extinguishers can cause damage to eyes and skin. Irritation can occur even without direct contact with the halon.
Interruption of the Central Nervous System
Large amounts of halon gas that get inhaled can interfere with the proper function of the central nervous system. The symptoms of this are dizziness and a tingling sensation in the extremities, and in some cases victims will also go unconscious.
Cardiac Sensitization
Halon gas can cause irregular heartbeats and an increased heart rate in response to adrenaline. In extreme cases, this can result in a heart attack.
I'm sure they briefed you on all that. ?
Suffocation
High concentrations of halon can create an oxygen-deficient environment. This can cause people to suffocate.
Frostbite
Placing skin in contact with the liquid being sprayed from the extinguisher can cause chilled skin and frostbite.
Skin and Eye Irritation
Like most toxins, halon fire extinguishers can cause damage to eyes and skin. Irritation can occur even without direct contact with the halon.
Interruption of the Central Nervous System
Large amounts of halon gas that get inhaled can interfere with the proper function of the central nervous system. The symptoms of this are dizziness and a tingling sensation in the extremities, and in some cases victims will also go unconscious.
Cardiac Sensitization
Halon gas can cause irregular heartbeats and an increased heart rate in response to adrenaline. In extreme cases, this can result in a heart attack.
I'm sure they briefed you on all that. ?
History does Not repeat itself through time. It does however, sometimes rhyme.
-
- Snr FO
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:09 pm
- Location: Close to the Heroes of Telemark
- Gender:
- Age: 70
Re: Foam on the range
Dushan wrote:I am surprised that the activating button would be "push". When I worked inside computer rooms with halon fire suppression systems the activating button (50 mm diameter) was a "pull" type and had a clear plastic cover that had to be lifted to activate the button.
There were other security measures in place, an alarm would go off in the engine room when you opened the cabinet containing the Red Button, but all overridden for demo purposes. One was supposed to vacate premises posthaste when the alarm sounded. On the other hand one was assured that unlike CO2, Halon was perfectly safe to breath.
Per
Re: Foam on the range
Not nearly as bad as that, but... once when visiting a friend, I opened the toilet door and there was foam coming out of the pot. Just like that, slow but steady (not stinky, thank God). So, what do you do?
I stared numb, then closed the toilet door when the room was about half full. To keep it 'in there'.
The friends told (later) it sometimes happens. Didn't know why.
I stared numb, then closed the toilet door when the room was about half full. To keep it 'in there'.
The friends told (later) it sometimes happens. Didn't know why.